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Five years after March 11th, which made Spain a target of the Islamist terror, Interior Minister has stated that “Spain is now a source of Human Resources for future terrorists”, “situated in the 1st place in the ranking of their preferred recruitement’s places for Al-Qaeda’s recruitment in Europe, and, at the same time, it continues to be a target of international terrorism”.

Moreover, in the last report from National Police and Civil Guard in the subject to the Interior Minister, Alfredo Pérez Rubalcaba, it’s underlined that the true objective of Al-Qaeda is to “submit Al-Andalus”.

Since March 11th, State Security Forces have detained 384 alleged Islamist terrorists.

Some of the them had the objective of recruiting, teaching, training and sending mujahidins to Irak. Others only did “apology of terrorism or defense and proud display of extremist ideas”, according to the counterterrorist sources of the National Police, or they just financed Jihad by sending money from Spain, for example, using the zakat or alms obtained thank to mosques.

Spanish Confederation of Police (CEP) points out that, in these last years, around 4 muslim residents in Spain per month have gone to Iraq, Chcchenya or Afghanistan, to get training, a number that is reduced to a “hundred” since March 11th 2004 bombings, by the antiterrorist services.

Most of the Islamist terrorist choose the Muslim communities in Catalonia to create sleeping cells. 80% of the police operations have taken place in Catalonia and 31% of the 130 Islamists who are now in prison were arrested in Catalonia.

The number of arrests have descended (108 in 2005, 56 in 2006, 47 in 2007, 65 in 2008), but Ceuta y Melilla, Andalucía, Madrid y Valencia, are other important Jihadist places in Spain.

“We can’t forget that Al Qaeda always points out Ceuta y Melilla in their statements as a consideration to their satellite groups, Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and Islamic Moroccan Combatant Group (GICM)”, according to the same sources.

Even if there have been 384 arrested, only 130 are now in prison (33%) Why? “In terrorism matters, prevention is fundamental”, according to police sources, “even if judges do not think the same”.

The National Court has established that “Jihadist terrorism has some peculiarities which makes it difficult to apply the jurisprudence laid on other terrorist cases”, according to the last report of the Judicial Power.” A democratic State cannot punish religious deliriums that preach hate to different people. Only the action, not beliefs or thoughts which can be punished”, underlines a sentence from the Supreme Tribunal that acquitted the terrorists”.

via España se ha convertido ya en la principal cantera de terroristas islamistas en Europa – 20minutos.es.

Not only Al-Qaeda has menaced Spain, even if 20 minutos (leftist) forgets to tell it. Hamas has repeatedly also menaced Europe in general and Spain in particular. Palestinians organizations (including Hamas, but not only) have also menaced Europe with “the Muslim minority” living here, specially after Israeli Operation Cast Lead.

Anyway, Jihadi menace has been growing for Spain since March 11th, a good proof that appeasement (and important quantities of State money given away to Islamic organizations in the name of “State’s religious neutrality”) does not produce any results in counter-terrorism and something President Obama should take good note of.

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  3. Can anyone translate “March 11th, which made Spain a target of the Islamist terror” into English, please? Whomever translated that text from Spanish slightly overreached in the ability to produce a comprehensible text in any language, as illustrated by the curious expressed notion of a date which presumptively makes some country the mark of “Islamic terror” which actually suggests the contrary of the poster’s probable intent: that the date of the terrorist attack struck fear in the heart of “Islamists” (sic)…

    Interesting. Was this posted as a critique of those who immorally attempt to translate yet miserably fail in the effort, of is this meant as condemnation of our Western calendar, or was the intent here merely to illustrate the merits of a clear writing style, by way of demonstrating the contrary?

    Álvaro Degives-Más’s last blog post..Jo, Pe… ¡Enhorabuena!

  4. Well, Álvaro, have you read the blog’s About page? I figure you haven’t. I write a lot and normally there are errors. I am not fully bilingual either.
    http://challenges.blogivists.com/about/

    Secondly:

    the curious expressed notion of a date which presumptively makes some country the mark of “Islamic terror” which actually suggests the contrary of the poster’s probable intent: that the date of the terrorist attack struck fear in the heart of “Islamists” (sic)…

    No, the date March 11th “struck fear” in Spanish hearts, not in Islamists’ one. I don’t know what you have against the term “Islamist”, no one has complained till you, so you must have a reason for it.
    And, no, March 11th was not only the “mark” of Islamic terror, but only was the beginning of my country being targeted by Jihadi attacks. Yes, there have been none afterwards, but the reason is just one: policemen have been truly effective. Arrests have been made monthly in all areas of terrorism: funding, training, etc.

    Any other comment about the core of the post? Or your only intent is just telling me that there are errors of translation? Something useful, of course, but I am not here mainly to receive grammar classes but to write about Islamism.

    Have a good day.

  5. Let’s start by the good part: you have a good day, too.

    At least a better one than when you crafted your apparent reply to two quite obvious points: one, that what works in one language doesn’t in another. So, don’t use a date as a placeholder for the events. Just some good advice. Then, “Islamists” are generally understood to be scholars on the subject of Islam. That’s not the same as Muslims, followers of the religion. Now, in Spanish there’s this interesting aversion to repetition of a given noun, which leads to inventive allegorical references such as, let’s say, Israel as the “Hebrew” state. In English that doesn’t fly. My bottom line here: it’s not the translation that sucks, it’s the sorely lacking command of English by whoever mistranslated that, and in the process also inverted the intended meaning. Just a fair matter of point, I think.

    The other point has more to do with building an argument that can strike at least some measure of comprehension in the casual reader. See, “terror” by itself means “fear” – not terrorism. Unless you refer to a “terror attack” which refers to an attack that is either based on or intends to create it. But “Islamic terror” is bare nonsense. Insofar as the intent is to connect Islam with terrorism, the proper expression would simply be Islamic terrorism. Now let’s assume that indeed the intent was to refer to “Islamic terrorism”. Here a new conundrum unfolds, as the notion of roughly one billion people engaging in terrorism seems somewhat hard to believe. Which leaves us little alternative than assuming that the base intent here is to simply connect a religion with one of the worst forms of criminal conduct. There you have it: so Muslims struck fear in Spain.

    Except, it wasn’t “just” Muslims; the terrorists involved in the March 11 train attacks were about as closely attached to their religion as, oh say, Franco was to the so-called Movement. Both were merely handy excuses over which to perpetrate a regime of terror.

    Now, while it’s certainly true that police and Interior Ministry officials alike do their best to avoid the previous government’s mistake, of gravely underestimating and ignoring a growing threat – right to the point of patently ignoring it and stubbornly insisting on another group of terrorist scumbags, more for reasons of political myopia than out of interest in protecting the public. So, avoiding that mistake and regularly raising the specter of Jihadist terrorists (!) seems like an appropriate hobby; it’s not all that dislike what the Bush administration did, with their occasional rising of the DHS color-code, if not “leaking” some ominous report suggesting an imminent threat. Let’s just say that it keeps the nerves trained.

    Now, what you sadly ignore totally in your otherwise interesting post above, is that aside from varying degrees of fear, panic and terror, those atrocious scenes in Atocha and the other stations quickly also led other emotions: upset, anger, if not plain rage. Rage over hijacking a state of collective shock with absurdly childish insistence that no, it was really those ETA people. Calling up leading foreign correspondents, stressing that point. Calling up ambassadors, insisting on that issue. Pressuring foreign government leaders into quickly adopting a resolution in the UNSC condemning, in hindsight, the wrong people albeit for the right reasons. Making, in short, a total fool and disgrace of itself and the nation it represents on a tremendous, international scale. Oh yeah: and on the fly, trying to keep the faint hope alive that a sufficiently convinced populace that it was a “domestic” source might give them the sorely needed leverage to stay in power for another term.

    The fact that some old fool – who curiously hasn’t been subject of a massive international manhunt, to wit: his ever recurring tape tantrums – can make calls to “reclaim” Al Andalus (it’s not just Ceuta or Melilla, it’s the rest as well) is hardly worthy mentioning. The fact that hardened, callous and above all murderous criminals are regularly ferreted out and arrested is. Compare that to the much-talked about “cultural conflict” in the Netherlands, where nonetheless the number of arrested Jihadist terrorist elements is, at best, symbolic in nature – notwithstanding the reality of a proportionally much larger degree (and history!) of resentment than in Spain as a modern country, which has only become an immigrant destination over the last two and a half decades. In the Netherlands, the “integration issue” harkens back to the 70s; talk about pent-up resentments… So, at least in Spain the bastards are actually tracked, hunted down, and arrested whenever and wherever they can.

    A little bit as with the cocaine scene in Spain compared to the hasheesh scene in the Netherlands, where the number and amounts of impounded drugs is not exactly proportional to the levels of drug (ab)use.

    Bottom line: as long as it hurts, that’s a good sign – it means you live.

    Less hysteric Spain-centrism, and more common sense imbued participation in the realities of a society in (say) Western European neighbors, that could do with a little bit of that Spanish steely resolve in pursuing terrorists, instead of mouthing touchy-feely things like “cultural sensitivity” and “integration” of elements that should have been deported, if not tried years ago. Better late than never, no? Spain isn’t “the recruitment center” – it’s the center of counterterrorism, the real stuff. Countries like Germany could also do well by taking a closer look at how it’s done: pursue, arrest, prosecute, try – and then convict or release.

    How much happier trans-Atlantic relations would have been, had a certain Texan taken a cue…

    Other than that, you still have a good day – and please don’t give up your daytime job for translation into English. Honestly, you shouldn’t.

  6. Lord, you should give up your day-time job for answering my comments on this blog, shouldn’t you? If I am so bad, you shouldn’t care about what I write or what I don’t. ;) It’s just losing your time.

    By the way, I am not going to give up anything. I only do this in my free time. But I am thinking in sending you what I want to translate so you can do it, considering your “knowledge” of English and the “classes” you are trying to give me in your free-time. (You really must have a lot, for using it to comment in so an abhorrent place… :lol: ).

    Then, “Islamists” are generally understood to be scholars on the subject of Islam. That’s not the same as Muslims, followers of the religion.

    (…) Here a new conundrum unfolds, as the notion of roughly one billion people engaging in terrorism seems somewhat hard to believe. Which leaves us little alternative than assuming that the base intent here is to simply connect a religion with one of the worst forms of criminal conduct. There you have it: so Muslims struck fear in Spain.

    .

    I’m sorry but I have being writing on this subject since Nov 2005, so I have a little of knowledge about the difference:
    a) Islamic terrorism: correct, as it’s not referring to all supporters, but just to a kind of terrorism, that considers the Islamic tradition as the basis for terrorist attacks.
    b) Islamists: not “scholars of Islam”, but people who follow an extremist interpretation of Islam (that is, just as it’s told in Quram and Hadiths) without considering the time when it was written and the times we are now.

    you must be a pleasant fellow, as you use your free time to tell others what sucks about them. In my very long life as a blogger no English-speaking person has told me anything similar. Only a French man and you… :lol:

    Rage over hijacking a state of collective shock with absurdly childish insistence that no, it was really those ETA people. Calling up leading foreign correspondents, stressing that point. Calling up ambassadors, insisting on that issue. Pressuring foreign government leaders into quickly adopting a resolution in the UNSC condemning, in hindsight, the wrong people albeit for the right reasons. Making, in short, a total fool and disgrace of itself and the nation it represents on a tremendous, international scale. Oh yeah: and on the fly, trying to keep the faint hope alive that a sufficiently convinced populace that it was a “domestic” source might give them the sorely needed leverage to stay in power for another term.

    Of course, you don’t even consider the previous histeric reaction from Socialists in the opposition about Iraqi war that led people to call murderers to the Government, to actual attacks of PP’s offices or similar “good-bred” manners. Zapatero’s behaviour not standing before the US flag was a very “mature” action. Just a very partial look into reality then… :lol:

    So, at least in Spain the bastards are actually tracked, hunted down, and arrested whenever and wherever they can.

    If they don’t escape to Morocco where they are given shelter, because then… je, they are not even judged there. And well, I don’t see the March 11th trial as a very just one. And no, I am not a Losantos’ fan. Gee.

    as long as it hurts, that’s a good sign – it means you live.

    What hurts? I just don’t understand…

    Less hysteric Spain-centrism, and more common sense imbued participation in the realities of a society in (say) Western European neighbors, t

    Oh, yeah, like Montilla or Touriño or “Spartaco Quintana” for example? Or Zapatero, the man who denied the crisis throughout a year to later deny he had denied it? The man who caved into ETA terrorism to make himself be awarded the “Nobel Peace Price”? Don’t make me laugh…

    Spain isn’t “the recruitment center” – it’s the center of counterterrorism, the real stuff.

    So you haven’t read the link, have you? Bwahahahahah! Now, I am laughing truly heartily. Rubalcaba, oh, you, the Translation God, said “España es el centro número 1 de reclutamento jihadista en Europa”… :lol:

    How much happier trans-Atlantic relations would have been, had a certain Texan taken a cue…

    Oh, yeah, of course, heheheh, Al Gore, the Prophet of the Non-existent Global Warming, would have been a much better US president. :lol:

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