Comments on: UK: Brown to boost Islamic banking http://challenges.blogivists.com/2009/02/15/uk-brown-to-boost-islamic-banking/ Extremism in the search of freedom is no vice. Moderation in the search of justice is no virtue Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:34:33 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Steynian 325 « Free Canuckistan! http://challenges.blogivists.com/2009/02/15/uk-brown-to-boost-islamic-banking/#comment-97 Steynian 325 « Free Canuckistan! Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:29:44 +0000 http://challenges.blogivists.com/?p=225#comment-97 [...] A GIANT SCAM– Can you say ‘fees’ instead of ‘interest’? UK: Brown to boost Islamic [...] [...] A GIANT SCAM– Can you say ‘fees’ instead of ‘interest’? UK: Brown to boost Islamic [...]
]]> By: Nora http://challenges.blogivists.com/2009/02/15/uk-brown-to-boost-islamic-banking/#comment-61 Nora Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:33:34 +0000 http://challenges.blogivists.com/?p=225#comment-61 I'm for the second option, <b>VH</b>. But they <b>do</b> care. No, I'm not defending Eurabia myth, but I really think this has to do more with "personal interests" than with general ones. Just consider that doing this, Gordon Brown (who, by the way, does not have a lot of probabilities of winning next term...) will be perceived as "a friend" by the super-rich oil emirates and countries of the Gulf. I'm sure that <b>that</b> will easy any move he will do in the future (such as going to UN or moving to work in the private sector). <blockquote>If European Muslims crave sharia so darn bad they should go back where they came from.</blockquote> The problem for me is not the European Muslims but the European <b>non-Muslims</b>. There are even people defending that Sharia Law should be allowed as that would grant more freedom: the Muslims would be able to submit to the law they really want. Of course, they continue, NOT in the case of abuses of Human Rights. The problem is that they don't understand that Muslims consider they don't have to submit to the <i>Laws of Land</i> but only to the <i>Laws of Allah</i>. So you explain that to them. But they continue saying that police and other institutions are to ensure that Laws of the Land are fulfilled. And then you see videos like this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp-lwSe2llg&eurl=http://vorzheva.blogspot.com/search?q=run+cowards&feature=player_embedded You can see clearly there is NO possibility of fulfilling the Laws of the Land in the middle of non-Muslim quarters. Imagine if that happens inside the Muslim quarters (which as you know are instantly considered as "Dar-Al-Islaam", that is, House of Islam, so the Laws of the Land are not even considered as they are not Allah's doings, they are man-made). I’m for the second option, VH. But they do care. No, I’m not defending Eurabia myth, but I really think this has to do more with “personal interests” than with general ones. Just consider that doing this, Gordon Brown (who, by the way, does not have a lot of probabilities of winning next term…) will be perceived as “a friend” by the super-rich oil emirates and countries of the Gulf. I’m sure that that will easy any move he will do in the future (such as going to UN or moving to work in the private sector).

If European Muslims crave sharia so darn bad they should go back where they came from.

The problem for me is not the European Muslims but the European non-Muslims. There are even people defending that Sharia Law should be allowed as that would grant more freedom: the Muslims would be able to submit to the law they really want. Of course, they continue, NOT in the case of abuses of Human Rights. The problem is that they don’t understand that Muslims consider they don’t have to submit to the Laws of Land but only to the Laws of Allah.

So you explain that to them. But they continue saying that police and other institutions are to ensure that Laws of the Land are fulfilled. And then you see videos like this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp-lwSe2llg&eurl=http://vorzheva.blogspot.com/search?q=run+cowards&feature=player_embedded

You can see clearly there is NO possibility of fulfilling the Laws of the Land in the middle of non-Muslim quarters. Imagine if that happens inside the Muslim quarters (which as you know are instantly considered as “Dar-Al-Islaam”, that is, House of Islam, so the Laws of the Land are not even considered as they are not Allah’s doings, they are man-made).

]]> By: velvethammer http://challenges.blogivists.com/2009/02/15/uk-brown-to-boost-islamic-banking/#comment-60 velvethammer Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:51:12 +0000 http://challenges.blogivists.com/?p=225#comment-60 When folks like us are more aware of the ramifications of introducing Sharia banking to the West over and above Western leaders something is horribly wrong. Then of course there is the possibility they are fully aware and do NOT care. Either scenario does not sit well with me. It is a dangerous game they are playing that affects everyday ordinary citizens. Sharia bank loans/credit cards are interest free as paying/charging interest is not halal. Who wouldn't love that? Fine in the Muslim lands. But in the West?! Oh hawl no. If European Muslims crave sharia so darn bad they should go back where they came from. Gordon Brown is embracing dhimmitude as if he were born to it. Traitor. <em>velvethammer's last blog post..<a href='http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2009/02/13/fitna/' rel="nofollow">Fitna</a></em> When folks like us are more aware of the ramifications of introducing Sharia banking to the West over and above Western leaders something is horribly wrong. Then of course there is the possibility they are fully aware and do NOT care. Either scenario does not sit well with me. It is a dangerous game they are playing that affects everyday ordinary citizens.

Sharia bank loans/credit cards are interest free as paying/charging interest is not halal. Who wouldn’t love that? Fine in the Muslim lands. But in the West?! Oh hawl no. If European Muslims crave sharia so darn bad they should go back where they came from.
Gordon Brown is embracing dhimmitude as if he were born to it. Traitor.

velvethammer’s last blog post..Fitna

]]> By: Nora http://challenges.blogivists.com/2009/02/15/uk-brown-to-boost-islamic-banking/#comment-59 Nora Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:20:11 +0000 http://challenges.blogivists.com/?p=225#comment-59 Hello, <b>Angel</b>. A horror?? That's a really summed up version of "<i>they are selling the Crown jewels to the Islamists, while abandoning the real moderates</i>". Really horrible :( And of course, they keep on with the tale of Wilders being a "racist", in blogs where you cannot even give your opinion: http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/blog/2009/02/ukips-alliance-with-geert-wilders.html Absolutely disgusting. :( Hello, Angel. A horror?? That’s a really summed up version of “they are selling the Crown jewels to the Islamists, while abandoning the real moderates“. Really horrible :(

And of course, they keep on with the tale of Wilders being a “racist”, in blogs where you cannot even give your opinion:
http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/blog/2009/02/ukips-alliance-with-geert-wilders.html

Absolutely disgusting. :(

]]> By: Angel http://challenges.blogivists.com/2009/02/15/uk-brown-to-boost-islamic-banking/#comment-58 Angel Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:15:33 +0000 http://challenges.blogivists.com/?p=225#comment-58 what a horror the UK is.......... <em>Angel's last blog post..<a href='http://www.womanhonorthyself.com/?p=5339' rel="nofollow">Geert Wilders: Banned from the U.K.</a></em> what a horror the UK is……….

Angel’s last blog post..Geert Wilders: Banned from the U.K.

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